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Virginia Postrel's avatar

You may discover that here in America, Jane Austen is famous and Flaubert is obscure.

ml Cohen's avatar

Love your picture legend, Henry! 🤣🤣

Henry Oliver's avatar

Haha thanks

Martin Hayden's avatar

Yes, yes! Also, I love it in 'Emma' that there is a whole story going on in the background that we only fully comprehend, if ever, near the end (i.e. Frank Churchill and Jane Fairfax, the piano, the tears at the strawberry picking, etc.). Daring.

Thomas Peermohamed Lambert's avatar

I can’t substantially disagree with this! Jane Austen was a great writer - in fact, to my mind, she was a greater writer than Flaubert. One brief word in defence of the original essay: if the novel has been about a specific technique since Austen, then it has, of necessity, been about that technique since Flaubert, too. Glimmers of free indirect discourse are detectable even in ancient literature. But Henry’s points about Austen are always worth listening to.

Henry Oliver's avatar

Sure but it’s important that we get the facts right!

Galen Strawson's avatar

It may have be an artefact of the translation but it seems to me that Lady Murasaki invented free indirect style. I wrote about this in a review once, it may be on my computer, I could send it if I can find it and if you like. Galen Strawson

Henry Oliver's avatar

Yes please! I’d be very interested to read that!

Galen Strawson's avatar

I sent it as an attachment but I got a message saying it didn't go through. But it is also here, let me know if this works: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/nov/23/fiction.highereducation

Henry Oliver's avatar

Thanks I enjoyed this a lot

Karl Straub's avatar

Damn it, Henry, how did you know that I can’t resist the seductive nature of an essay about free indirect style?

David Roberts's avatar

Hard agree, Henry, hard agree.

Henry Oliver's avatar

It makes me so grouchy!

Anita Alvarez Cox's avatar

Jane Austen was a brilliant stylist, but since her novels are anachronistically considered "romances", some people (we all know who) have never respected her as the genius she was.

Lasagna's avatar

When will Shakespeare get the recognition he deserves?

The Well-Tempered Critic's avatar

Very interesting text. That being said, an honest question: don’t we already see ‘'glimpses'’ of this seamlessness between narrator’s voice and character’s point of view even in Don Quixote? My impression is that what Flaubert did wasn’t so much invent the technique as make it the guiding line of the novel - using it to open new modalities of representation: psychological profiles, plural narrators, and narrative metaphors (Charles’s hat representing himself, the burning of the bouquet embodying the struggles of Charles and Emma’s marriage, and so on). What do you think?

Christina Acosta's avatar

In James Wood's earlier book The Broken Estate, he does give Austen her due for free indirect style in this essay pp. 32-41 (see esp. p. 38 where he mentions Flaubert).

In How Fiction Works, also p. 38, Wood is delineating a tension between the author's style and his/her characters' styles: this tension he attributes to Flaubert as a founder. On the following page he claims Flaubert established "modern realist narration." I don't think Wood is claiming free indirect style was begun by Flaubert.

Ben Mason's avatar

Honest queation. Where does Goethe belong in this conversation?

In Wilhelm Meister and Elective Affinities, there is a huge amount of narration which is coloured by subjectivity, quotation isn't always clear, and authorial narration and inner thought blur. I've always wondered why Goethe is absent from these discussions about FID. He at least has to be considered a crucial stylistic precursor if not a practitioner or am I missing something?

meika loofs samorzewski's avatar

In the current climate never. Authoritarianism is on the rise, given our common inability to police narcissism. Authoritarianism is common to all but generally aligns with paternal and thus anti maternal instincts, in the name of order as loyalty to some other egotist.

Lawrence Rowland's avatar

Although the protagonist in Sentimental Education is curiously numb, passive, and moved by broader forces, and we are held at a distance from him, and I had t encountered that before

Kazuo Robinson's avatar

Wood gives Austen her due in “The Birth of Inwardness” (New Republic)

Henry Oliver's avatar

sure but his book has mislead a few people imo

Jamie Freestone's avatar

Spot on. Although in my experience studying/teaching literature Austen is credited… I remember reading Wood’s work & being slightly surprised because I’d been taught that Austen invented or at least pioneered free indirect discourse. & that was the conventional wisdom among narratology people, & it’s what I taught my students, & indeed even the Wikipedia page on free indirect credits Austen (& Goethe interestingly, though I can’t vouch for that). But this is all in an Australian context.

Henry Oliver's avatar

Yes scholars know all this