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John McGee, PhD's avatar

Cool to see you discussing LLL! Nice point about the play being a "story of erotic obsession without resolution," and quite right about the connection to the sonnets - a point that sometimes gets overlooked. If interested, I wrote a piece last year on the meaning of the title. Would love to hear what you think: https://johnmcgee.substack.com/p/loves-labors-lost-the-meaning-of

Kieran Garland's avatar

Barber's Festive Comedy book (which I have just begun) is, already, truly extraordinary, like a cheat-code for a key aspect of some of Shakespeare's most powerful stuff. Also a joy to read. And what an insight to have had!

Am not familiar, so I've no idea if it is at all related, but do you put any stock in Hughes' Goddess of Complete Being idea? Seems like, if not actually, then it's perhaps theologically or spiritually related.

Henry Oliver's avatar

Great book. Every page is a lesson. Not a fan of Hughes' theories, but I love his poetry.

Kieran Garland's avatar

I love Hughes' Oresteia translation, but especially his Tales From Ovid. His reading for the audiobook is wonderful, he has the most incredible voice. Like if James Earl Jones was a white Yorkshireman

Henry Oliver's avatar

That’s one audiobook I might enjoy

Kieran Garland's avatar

Oh, are you not generally a fan? His reading is something, a real artefact. And he reads simply and beautifully

Henry Oliver's avatar

I never listen to them but I do listen to poets reading their own work.

Martin Black's avatar

I found this play hard going, mainly because I found the language difficult. This 1974 BBC adaptation had me laughing though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbbAlpRHKXU

Henry Oliver's avatar

It’s got some dated jokes and stuff that I find rather heavy. Glad you enjoyed the performance! All of those adaptations are good imo

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Henry Oliver's avatar

coffee in london is **expensive**